Inline (same line) footnotes

[DBP]

Is there a way to do inline (or same line) footnotes? Currently, when using footnotes, each footnote starts a new line and they look like this:

1 This is the first footnote.
2 This is the second footnote.
3 This is the third footnote.

With inline (or same line) footnotes, each footnote would start on the same line as the previous footnote and would look like this:

1 This is the first footnote. 2 This is the second
footnote. 3 This is the third footnote.

I am working with documents already created and edited in WP 6.1 and would prefer a fix for this version. However, I also use WP 11 (also 8 and 9) can make this specific change there if need be.

I am already aware that I could just have one footnote per page for the text for all the footnotes on that page and just use superscript numbers in the text in place of individual footnotes. What other options do I have?

I am surprise WP does not have this option readily available (or maybe it does I just don’t know it) given that this has been an accepted practice and is the norm for the type of professional project I’m working on.

[BarryMacDonnell]

Originally posted by DBP:
Is there a way to do inline (or same line) footnotes? ...

I don't think so. Each footnote is a "substructure" -- think of a small container -- which has its own internal format. Hence, you cannot place several footnotes inside a particular footnote.

[ON EDIT: See my posts below for a way to simulate them -- or see How to simulate "inline" footnotes.]

I am already aware that I could just have one footnote per page for the text for all the footnotes on that page and just use superscript numbers in the text in place of individual footnotes. What other options do I have?

I would use your method. You can always start new footnote numbering on subsequent pages. You can also reduce the space between footnotes, which might help.

I am surprise WP does not have this option readily available (or maybe it does I just don’t know it) given that this has been an accepted practice and is the norm for the type of professional project I’m working on.

It may be "accepted practice" for your particular needs, but it is not so for the majority of writers. (If I am wrong please provide a link to a reference so that we might all benefit. )

[DBP]

I am not aware of any specific reference (Turabian or otherwise) for standardized inline footnotes. Simply peruse most any master’s thesis or doctoral dissertation produced on a manual typewriter for examples of its use. Apparently their use fell off due to the limitations of early word processors.

It would appear that Nisus Writer Pro has this feature:
http://www.nisus.com/forum/viewtopic...t=2478&p=10693

It is also showing up in the Microsoft forums for Word:
http://www.microsoft.com/communities...&cr=&sloc=&p=1

I have always thought of WordPerfect as being among the most advanced word processors and ahead of the competition. I am somewhat surprised Corel lagging behind.

[lemoto]

Originally posted by DBP:
I have always thought of WordPerfect as being among the most advanced word processors and ahead of the competition. I am somewhat surprised Corel is lagging behind.

I think that it is not.

The current standard arises from the way that wordprocessors (computer programs) work, in the same way that in-line footnotes were easy when folk used typewriters (insofar as footnotes ever were easy then). It is not seen as a limitation. Saving space is the only advantage of the inline method; using wordprocessors, smaller font sizes are possible, which of course reduces the difference.

The M$ link you provided shows that Word is if anything less able to produce inline footnotes than WP.

[dc_duke]

I thought the accepted practice for footnoting something where there are multiple sources was to use one footnote number, and in the footnote itself put the multiple source details with a separator - typically a semicolon.

[DBP]

The reference for standardized short (inline) footnotes can be found in Turabian, 14.21 (I have the 5th edition).

Yes, would agree Word at best no better than WP on this. Nisus Writer Pro on the other hand is ahead of both of them on this.

[dc_duke]

I can't find my copy of Turabian, and in any case it's VERY old. However, since Turabian is based on the Chicago style manual, this might be relevant:
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MULTIPLE CITATIONS

When several different sources need to be cited for a sentence or paragraph they should be inserted into one single footnote divided by a semicolon:

Example:

3. Kenneth T. Jackson, Chicago Council on Foreign Relations: A Record of Forty Years (Chicago: Chicago Council on Foreign Relations, 1963), 20; Jay Allen, “The Spanish Nightmare II,” October 8, 1937, Chicago Council on Foreign Relations Papers, Special Collections, Daley Library, University of Illinois at Chicago; William E. Dodd, “The Dilemma of the International Situation,” February 28, 1938, Chicago Council on Foreign Relations Papers, Special Collections, Daley Library, University of Illinois at Chicago.
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See http://staff.imsa.edu/socsci/chicagostyle/multiple.html

EDIT

I think I've misunderstood what you want. Are footnotes 1, 2, 3 quite separate notes to different parts of your text? Is there any reason for having them on the same line apart from space-saving? Is there something about your field which makes this vital?

[DBP]

Yes to both. They are notes from different places in the main body of the text but occur on the same page. They would require separate citations. The purpose of inline notes is to save space. The field is textual criticism and the majority of the notes a less than a line, perhaps only 1/4 to 1/3 of a line long.

Is there a way to attach a file to these replies? If so, I could post a one page .pdf sample of what I am working with. If you could see the sample the need for the inline notes would be quite obvious.

[lemoto]

Originally posted by DBP:
Is there a way to attach a file to these replies?

In the Reply screen, choose the [Browse] button below the EditBox. Observe the note:
> Valid file extensions: gif jpg png txt zip bmp jpeg

[BarryMacDonnell]

There is a way (at least one) to simulate what 'DBP' is trying to accomplish -- "inline footnotes."

Unfortunately, it is will not automatically create footnote numbers (or footnotes, for that matter, since it is a separate process from footnotes/endnotes).

[UPDATE:] See "How to simulate "inline" footnotes"
http://wptoolbox.com/tips/FNEN.html#inline

Method:

A borderless text box can be created at the bottom of any page where such annotations are desired. The text box would contain a 2" line to simulate the footnote separator.

The user would simply create the box, enter the "footnote," exit the box and enter a superscripted reference number in the body text.

Below is an example, with the numbers redlined for convenience.

The creation of such a box can be automated with a macro. [ON EDIT: See next post.]